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5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed Corné Aussems February 6, 2009 12:28 AM
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed Jorge Ferrer February 6, 2009 1:50 AM
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed Corné Aussems February 9, 2009 3:05 PM
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed Corné Aussems February 9, 2009 3:06 PM
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed Julio Camarero February 13, 2009 5:22 AM
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed Corné Aussems February 16, 2009 1:11 AM
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed Julio Camarero February 16, 2009 1:38 AM
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed Corné Aussems March 1, 2009 1:19 PM
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed Julio Camarero March 2, 2009 2:52 AM
Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations Corné Aussems March 2, 2009 3:01 AM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Julio Camarero March 2, 2009 3:10 AM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Corné Aussems March 3, 2009 1:53 PM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Julio Camarero March 3, 2009 11:50 PM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Corné Aussems March 4, 2009 12:11 AM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Corné Aussems March 9, 2009 3:38 PM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Julio Camarero March 10, 2009 1:22 AM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Corné Aussems March 13, 2009 2:31 AM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) RoK . March 13, 2009 1:51 AM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Corné Aussems March 16, 2009 6:59 AM
RE: Re: [Liferay Forums][Translations] RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Julio Camarero March 23, 2009 6:09 AM
Corné Aussems
5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed
February 6, 2009 12:28 AM
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5.2 Dutch Translations are being reviewed this weekend.
starting plugin translations from now

http://issues.liferay.com/browse/LPS-1971
Jorge Ferrer
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed
February 6, 2009 1:50 AM
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Thanks Corné,

Let us know when it's ready
Corné Aussems
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed
February 9, 2009 3:05 PM
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Just committed in LEP

http://issues.liferay.com/browse/LPS-1971
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RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed
February 9, 2009 3:06 PM
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With plugins ;)
Julio Camarero
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February 13, 2009 5:22 AM
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Hi Corné,

Thank you very much for your hard work, I was about to commit your changes, but I have seen you have only sent the language.properties files, could you please sent the language.properties.native?

thanks a lot!
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RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed
February 16, 2009 1:11 AM
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Sorry I don't have the native files and
I'm used to not translate those.

I know its against the instructions:
http://www.liferay.com/web/guest/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/Translating+Liferay+to+a+New+Language

But my problem with this strategie is/was that de native file kept being completely changed without my changed

for instance ë becomes ë any idea why ?
If you know whayt i'am doing wrong i can redo th enative for you
Julio Camarero
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed
February 16, 2009 1:38 AM
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Hi Corné,

that sounds very strange... when is the native file changed without you making changes? when deploying? We have to find out what is wrong there.....your translations in those files should never change. Anyway, it sounds like it has something to do with ASCII codification...


The problem with committing the language.properties files is that all non-ASCII characters will look wrong. Actually, I would only need the language_nl.properties.native because when you send me these files (using any kind of character), I run the ant native2ascii and I get the language_nl.properties file with all ASCII codified characters.


I have been reviewing the files you uploaded and I can use the application builder and the wiki navigation language.properties as they don't have non-ascii characters, but I would need you to apply the changes you made yo the language.properties.native in the portal and knowledge base, if you could just copy your changes there and send me those before they are modified strangely it would be great.

Thanks a lot!
Corné Aussems
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March 1, 2009 1:19 PM
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Hi Julio,

I took a while, thanks for waiting.
i uploaded the native files in the LEP
Julio Camarero
RE: 5.2 Dutch (Nederlands) Translations being reviewed
March 2, 2009 2:52 AM
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Thank you very much Corné,

Congratulations, I have seen it's been a hard work. I've just committed the changes, but I had to make several changes, (it would be great if you could check everything looks still alright in the final translation).

The changes I had to do were caused by the following:

- Your files were not updated, they were in the version of 2 months ago more or less... so there were some keys you modified that already doesn't exist and there were several new ones (I tried to fix some with my little knowledge of Dutch emoticon

- You can't modify the keys, everything at the left of the equals symbol should remain the same. (Below is an example in the file you uploaded)
1model.resource.com.liferay.portlet.tags.model.[b]EtikettenEntry[/b]=Etiket
2
3model.resource.com.liferay.portlet.tags.model.[b]EtikettenVocabulary[/b]=Etiketten woordenschat


These are only advices for future versions, thank you so much for the hard work, it's a great translation!

Julio
Corné Aussems
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March 2, 2009 3:01 AM
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Julio thanks for committing

And indeed its been I while since I checked out.
But my diff was against the current snapshot and should register these
gone tags.

Regarding changing keys; that was not my intention but more a faulty
search & replace action;

I will synchronize ASAP and try keeping up with translations so that it
won't become such a time consuming job.

At least this Forum and a pre-release warning is welcome.
Julio Camarero
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March 2, 2009 3:10 AM
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Thanks again, Corné.

For future revisions, remember that these files were updated in revision 26798 (you can find this number in the LPS) so that you can use subversion to show you the differences between this revision and the last one. This will help you to find what has changed since the last time.
Corné Aussems
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March 3, 2009 1:53 PM
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Ok Julio with this you could help me out.

when I check the revision in fisheye;
http://svn.liferay.com/browse/portal/trunk/portal-impl/src/content/Language_nl.properties.native?r=26798
I see my changes commited but in eclipse (subclipse) when I synchronize I see no changes.
I can see for instance the line 7 & 8;
1
2lang.line.begin=left
3lang.line.end=right

if I try svn history it highest revision is 24281 ??
How should I get the latest revision to compare the changes from 26798?

Should I use 'Show annotations' ?
then i get
svn: Start revision must precede end revision
Julio Camarero
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March 3, 2009 11:50 PM
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Hi Corne,

just a first consideration, what is the svn repository you are synchronized with? Have a look at subclipse configuration and make sure you are using svn.liferay.com and not the old one (sourceforge).

We moved to this svn a few months ago: svn://svn.liferay.com/repos/public


Can you check this?

thanks a lot!
Corné Aussems
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March 4, 2009 12:11 AM
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Aha well I now without checking this mine is from sourceforge.

Sorry was to busy lately to catch these kinds of messages.

thanks for helping hope to get you a new update soon
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March 9, 2009 3:38 PM
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uploaded a new update native file

http://issues.liferay.com/browse/LPS-1971
Julio Camarero
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March 10, 2009 1:22 AM
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Thanks Corne, I will take care of it! emoticon
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March 13, 2009 1:51 AM
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Hi Corné,

Thanks for the good work, although I have a question. The current Dutch translation is really, really terrible. Looks like an automatic translation. For instance the menu option "toggle edit controls" is translated as "De knevel geeft controles uit" (very funny by the way). There are also many grammatical errors in the longer sentences/messages. Have these things all been repaired in your new translation?

Another comment is about the question whether some concepts should be translated or not because both words are used in Dutch, e.g.: 'communities' en 'gemeenschappen'. The last word has some nasty connotations ;-), so I would prefer communities in this case.

Regards,
RoK
Corné Aussems
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March 16, 2009 6:59 AM
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Hello Rob,

The latest changes are commited in trunk and not yet in the latest
release.
My latest contribution is not yet commited though I have to ask Julio
At least we have some kind of warning nowadays.
Here you'll find the latest; http://issues.liferay.com/browse/LPS-1971
http://svn.liferay.com/browse/portal/trunk/portal-impl/src/content/Language_nl.properties


You may change whatever you or clients need/want and drop it in the
/ROOT/web-inf/classes/content/

Since translations are always nl_NL subjective I
suggest Microsofts glossary;
http://woordenlijst.org/
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/tools/MILSGlossary.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=25018024-2DFD-4229-9763-05F78FEAF2FF&displaylang=en

and "Praktijkwoordenboek" Engels-Nederlands van van Dale

I opened up a wiki for discussion
http://www.liferay.com/web/guest/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/Dutch+Translations+Discussion+in+Dutch+Nederlands
Corné Aussems
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March 13, 2009 2:31 AM
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Julio could you commit the changes please ?
http://issues.liferay.com/browse/LPS-1971
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March 23, 2009 6:09 AM
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Hi Corne,

I am very sorry for this late reply, I was working outside the office last week and didn't have time to commit your changes.

I was about to commit them now but I saw that there are some problems:
- keys changed in language_nl.properties (d\u00e9activate=d\u00e9activeer)
- the file that I should commit (language_nl.properties.native) doesn't have these changes applied

As I told you before, I only need the language_nl.properties.native file. I would thank you if you only send that file from now on and you make sure that all your changes are ok there. Please, don't modify the file language_nl.properties anymore as those changes will be lost.

Thanks again for your hard work and please, let me know when you upload new files.

Julio